ARIZONA IRISH MUSIC SOCIETY
AIMS NEWS AND NOTES
AIMS News and Notes 05-22-2002
1. NEW E-MAIL SOFTWARE IS BEING TRIED
As most readers already know, I have been receiving complaints by people who have not received the newsletter. I am trying a new e-mail program this week in the hope that it will solve the problem of people not receiving their newsletter.
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2. ICLC MEMO (IRISH CULTURAL AND LEARNING CENTER)
Hi George,
Thanks for including the Claddagh Dinner announcement in the AIMS newsletter. Inquiries may be sent to claddagh@azirish.com
Another development is that planning is well under way for the August 1 opening of "The Academy of Irish and Celtic Studies" at the Irish Cultural and Learning Center. The Academy will offer music lessons for children and adults in guitar, banjo, mandolin, fiddle, whistle, flute, and bodhran. John McMorrow is coordinating an incredibly talented faculty which includes; Steve Colby, Pat McCrossan, Jerica Leathers, and John Good. Details will be finalized soon and I will forward them to you for the next edition of your newsletter. Questions may be directed to academy@azirish.com
Thanks for your great support in getting the Center news out to the Irish Community,
Patrick Cunningham
3. 1ST ANNUAL CLADDAGH DINNER TO HONOR MAUREEN O'MAHAR JUNE 14TH
You're Invited to an affair of the heart - The 1st Annual Claddagh Dinner to honor Maureen O'Mahar, on June 14, 2002
The Claddagh Dinner will be held each year, benefiting the AZ Irish Endowment Fund of The Irish Cultural and Learning Foundation. The proceeds raised by the 2002 event will be donated to the AZ Irish Endowment Fund to honor Maureen O'Mahar. The endowment is a permanent fund: the principal will be prudently invested, and annual interest will be used for the Irish Cultural and Learning Center.
Please join us for this inaugural event as we honor Maureen O'Mahar.
Reception Hour (Complimentary) with The McMorrows
Seating is limited. Tickets are $50 per person. (Tables are available for $300 and $500) Cocktail attire.
For reservation information, call 602 819-6400 or email claddagh@azirish.com
4. PHOENIX FEIS FUNDRAISER - SUN JUNE 2ND
The Phoenix Feis is announcing a trial run of what we hope will be a fun summer event next year: CEILI CRAWL 2003!
You've all heard of a Pub Crawl where you travel from bar to bar, watching your favorite bands. We'd rather dance, so we thought we go hold a series of ceilis over the course of summer 2003, each held at a different location with a different band.
But why are you telling me this now you ask! We need to know if you like the idea so we're going to try it out. The first ceili will be JUNE 2nd at the Bandersnatch Brew Pub in Tempe from 2-4pm, with Allanah performing. We'll have an additional one later in the summer. Don't know any ceili dances? That's ok, we'll teach you, and we will have instruction books books available for you for a small donation. If this event is successful, we can start planning Ceili Crawl 2003!
You don't have to dance to come out and enjoy the wonderful music, dancing, fun, food, and raffle prizes. All donations will benefit the Phoenix Feis.
The Phoenix Feis is your community Feis, independent of the dance schools, and as such it relies on community support. The Feis is run by a small group of volunteers, all of whom are dedicated to creating a wonderful dance and music competition for Phoenix. You can help with both your financial contribution and your time. If you'd like to volunteer, please sign up at the ceili or send an email to chair@phoenixfeis.org
Caitlyn Schmidt
5. NEWS FROM THE FLAGSTAFF CELTS
[EDITOR'S NOTE: This is a rather long piece about a change in policy by the Flagstaff Chamber of Commerce that wants to charge entries, including the pipe band, for participating in their 4th of July parade. One piece of information that is not included, the Phoenix St. Patrick's Day Parade pays the bands that march in its parade.]
TO MEMBERS OF THE THREE CELTIC ORGANIZATIONS:
PARADE--FEEDBACK NEEDED!
We have a somewhat sticky
issue that must be resolved. Each organization--the Irish Foundation, the
Celtic Heritage Society, and the Arizona Higlanders Pipe Band--must make an
individual decision, and then we must make a combined group decision. We
need everyone's input so that this decision will represent the interests of
all or most of the members of the three organizations.
We have received notification of Flagstaff's annual Fourth of July Parade
which we have been a part of for five years. But this year they are
charging for the privilege of entering--$25 per entry. They have never
before charged, and the Irish Foundation has asked why the charge and what
the money is going for. We are told that expenses (city fees, porta
potties, baricades, insurance) are higher this year.
As mentioned above, the issue for each organization is different, and the
issue is most critical for the Arizona Highlanders--a professional pipe
band that is regularly paid for parade performances. Their standard fee is
$300 (other bands, such as Mesa Caledonian, charge much more!). The band
has been paid for parade performances (or offered pay when invited)--by
Winslow, Sedona, Phoenix, Yarnell, Lake Havasu, Seligman, Prescott,
Cottonwood, and Camp Verde. (It is interesting to note that even the
cities that charge for their parade entries, do pay bands to participate!)
Yet in consideration of our hometown community, the Arizona Highlanders
have always waived their fee for the Flagstaff parades. The band has
offered to do that this year--or at least waive $275 of the $300 fee to
cover the cost of entry--and their offer has been summarily rejected.
Cities throughout the country (including Mesa, Phoenix, and Tempe in
Arizona) financially support their local pipe bands. The Arizona
Highlanders have never received a cent from the City, the Chamber of
Commerce, or any public organization. And yet they have always waived all
fees when performing for city functions and marching in city parades.
Since it is against Band policy to pay for the privilege of performing, we
need feedback from everybody concerning the following options:
(1) Each organization marches and pays a $25 entry fee.
This issue has already been discussed by the Irish Foundation and by the
Arizona Highlanders among their own memberships. The issue had not come up
by the time of the last Celtic Heritage Society meeting. No one, except
for the Irish Foundation, has made a decision, so we are awaiting input
from you before a final decision is made. Please respond promptly because
the entry form--should we decide to participate--is due very soon.
HERE IS THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR:
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1.) That the Northern Arizona Celtic Heritage Society (NACHS) pay the
fee. If the city insists that we are 3 organizations, then NACHS should pay
it all.
2.) We should have a mind-to-mind discussion with the "persons in
charge" of the parade at city hall and the Chamber about what other cities
do for the Arizona Highlanders. 3. We discuss this with our current mayor
who makes so much of his Scottish heritage. If he loses the election I will
talk with Chris Bavasi about it as I know him from church. The Pipe Band
should play, and everyone should march. It is excellent advertising for the
festival which will be 16 days away at the time of the 4th parade.
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p.s. Trust me, it is so stupid, next year
will be a new plan. By the way does anyone know who's more than stupid idea
this was? Maybe they moved here from Sedona where everything costs plenty
and fees arecharged for just about everything. :-) :-) Maybe they are
English too.
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I totally can relate to the pipers and the drummer who
are insulted and do not wish to participate in their
own hometown parade because they are so unappreciated
that they are being asked to pay an entry fee. I am
curious. Did they have to pay a fee to enter the
competition down at the Highland Games in Mesa? If
so, how much? Also, will bands pay an entry fee at
our own festival?
Even though I understand the reluctance of the pipers
to play, mark me down as one who agrees with the
thoughts FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE CELTIC HERITAGE
SOCIETY. I believe that for the parade, we should
combine all the organizations as you do for the
newsletter and pay one fee not using any of the Pipers
money so they don't break their own policy.
If it would be better for everybodyís psyche, I will
be glad to pay their $25 entry fee. They can consider
it as payment from one fan.
The parade will happen with or without the Pipers and
frankly very few of us will even notice if they are
not there, BUT many, many of us and others will notice
and appreciate them if they are. Rare is the person
or group appreciated in their hometown...."Even a
Prophet is......"
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Please know the Chamber of Commerce gets no funding from the City to produce
this parade. Our money comes from one source only, our major sponsor which
gives us $2500 to cover all expenses. (I earlier had quoted $3500 which if
for the Northern Lights Holiday parade -- $1000 is for prize money from
APS).
The Chamber of Commerce is a non-profit organization. Like you
participating in the parade, we coordinate it simply for the pleasure of the
people of our community. We are only asking for your help (through the $25
entry fee) so we can continue to bring this event to Flagstaff.
We certainly appreciate you having donated your time to march. We equally
appreciate everyone else's efforts to be in the parade. This is a community
event; if the community doesn't pitch in, then it becomes less successful.
No one is paid to participate in our parades. How would it be possible on a
budget of $2500? In previous years we had the professional stilt walkers in
the parade; their appearance was paid for through a local sponsor which then
used them to promote his business.
If this parade cannot be produced on budget, then the Chamber will stop
organizing it. Then everyone loses.
Hope this clarifies the situation a bit.
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Martha Shideler
6. WELSH LEAGUE OF ARIZONA - MAY BULLETIN
GREETINGS FROM OUR PRESIDENT
Shwmai pawb, how is everyone? Well, I hope.
There is excitement in the Celtic community since the official opening of the
Irish Cultural and Learning Center, though there is still some work to be done
on the interior before it can be fully used. Patrick Cunningham, who will be
running the Center, has been very busy allotting times for different activities.
A pan-Celtic music+ school, tentatively entitled "The Academy of Irish and
Celtic studies", will be based in the beautiful building near the Phoenix Central
Library. There will be weekly concerts, Celtic film shows, poetry, lectures and,
of course, language classes. The Phoenix Welsh Language class will take up
residence, with an extra hour of instruction for absolute beginners and --at last! --
there will be regular Welsh League meetings and programs. We hope to get
going in July if the construction is completed. So, stay tuned for the developments.
I received a letter of thanks from harpist Robin Huw Bowen, of Crasdant. He
wished to thank all of us for the " croeso a lletygarwch" (welcome and hospitality)
and for the successful concert arrangements. We hope to bring him, a singer,
and an actor back to the valley in December, for a performance of "A Child's
Christmas in Wales"; with song, poetry and musical accompaniment. Stay tuned.
And talking about music, our own Welsh/Celtic, folk group "Afan", has added a
dancer (Eileen Connell) and is playing and dancing to enthusiastic audiences
around the valley. They'll be at Rula Bula in Tempe every other Sunday afternoon
through May and June (details below). So, with so much in the works, at the risk
or repeating myself: stay tuned, the League is gathering momentum. Hwyl am y
tro (bye for now), John Good.
PERFORMANCE DATES FOR "AFAN", OUR LOCAL WELSH/PAN
CELTIC BAND May 19th, June 2nd, 16th and 30th. 1:30 until 4:00,
Rula Bula, Tempe.
" Afan" plays regularly at Rula Bula (European food and beverages),
401 S. Mill, Tempe. You can find these dates and their other engagements at
their Web site: www.afanmusic.com and at the Irish Music site: www.azirishmusic.com
SUMMER OPPORTUNITIES
Welsh Heritage Week:
>From Susy Hopkins: With the temperature is already peaking into the 90s my
thoughts are turning to summer plans, and this year I'll spend my vacation in
air-conditioned comfort in Utica at Welsh Heritage Week. I can't urge everyone
enough to join us for WHW, which has always been for me a tremendous
(even life-altering) experience. This year promises to be even better than ever,
and I hope to see you there. Their publicity from Sian Frick reads:
Welsh Heritage Week has found a home for 2002 in Utica College, Utica, NY,
July 21 thru 28. Utica is a lovely town in the Mohawk Valley in upstate New York
that is home to a great many people of Welsh descent. Located 90 miles west of
Albany, 50 miles east of Syracuse, and 50 miles south of the Adirondacks, Utica is
in the heart of one of New York State's most scenic historic and culturally rich
areas. The local St. David's Society has over 300 members and is very active in
promoting the Welsh heritage in the area.
We are all looking forward to a wonderful welcome from the community and
Utica College. The 128-acre campus is very attractive, and has easy access to
local places of interest. The dorm where we will be staying was opened in August
1999 and features suite style living with either double or single accommodations.
Those of you who attended last year will be happy to note that the dorm is
AIR-CONDITIONED! Check out the college's web site at www.utica.edu . We are
still in the process of putting together our faculty for this year. Returning this year
are John Albert Evans of Cardiff and Gareth Hughes Jones of Caernarfon. John has
been our head master for many years and he spends a great deal of time putting
together our Welsh language program every year. Gareth is the head of our music
department and we offer a variety of opportunities to express your musicality --
singing of various kinds, instrumental folk music, and harp classes. There will also
be Welsh folk dancing, and probably clogging. Depending on the faculty and
their interests, there will probably be at least one more course in the afternoon on
some aspect of Welsh culture. In the evenings, we hope to have the usual pub night,
Noson Lawen where we share their talents with each other (and give the hard-working
faculty a rest!), a concert where the faculty perform for us, Twmpath (barn dance) with
our resident band, and just-for-fun Eisteddfod, before the final Cymanfa Ganu
(Welsh hymn-sing) on Sunday morning to finish off the week.
We will keep in touch with you as we confirm further details about the week. Warning:
Welsh Heritage Week is addictive! We're a very friendly group, and welcoming to
newcomers. We take our classes seriously, but the Welsh faculty all has a wonderful
sense of humor, and the atmosphere is relaxed. We always enjoy having young people
come, and they enjoy being together. Quotes: "A month's vacation in a week";
(from a teenager) "I didn't know being Welsh could be *fun*!"
For more information or to download a printable brochure/registration form visit their
Web site: www.angelfire.com/art/welshheritage
Another opportunity to learn Welsh is Cwrs Cymraeg, held July 21-28 at Simpson
College in Indianola, Iowa. Check their Web site for more information at
www.madog.org or write to Patricia E. McCaughey, Registrar, Y Cwrs Ar Y Paith,
2502 Beaver Ave., Des Moines, IA 50310-3906
Family History Seminar - Queen Mary, Long Beach, California, July 18-20
LANGUAGE CLASSES CONTINUE
The Phoenix area class meets Tuesday nights from 7:00 to 9:00 at the office of
"Legal Resources" in a small shopping center on the northwest corner of 32nd Street
and Indian School. Call John Good at 623-939-0209 for details.
The Tucson class is on vacation until mid August. Call Lynn Watts at 520-579-5371
for details.
SUN CITY NEWS
Meetings are over until October. Call Patricia King for details at 602-547-1107.
HOW TO REACH US
Welsh League of Arizona
7. ON BUILDING AN IRISH BAND IN ARIZONA - PART 1
George O'Brien - Arizona Correspondent
"What does it take to build a successful Irish band in Arizona?"
Most people are very surprised to find an active Irish music scene in Arizona. They are even more surprised to find how strong the bands/performers are and the quality of competition for gigs. Therefore, I frequently get the question, "What does it take to build a successful Irish band in Arizona?"
It is by no means clear that I am the most qualified person to answer this question. I have never started a band or even played in a real band. Compared to many others, I am fairly new to Irish music and the music business in general. About all I have to offer is the fact that I spend more time watching and listening to local Irish music than anyone else around (as opposed to playing). As President of the Arizona Irish Music Society, I see more Irish bands more often than anyone else.
At the same time, I have spent a lot of time asking people their opinion including musicians, music fans, venue owners, and others. As the saying goes, "you can learn a lot by listening." So the following suggestions are just opinions, but not totally uninformed ones.
The following items are organized in the form of questions that I would ask a prospective band organizer in Arizona.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN?
Unless you have done it, few people realize just how much work goes into the being a professional musician. The time spent on stage is only a small part of the effort. This includes personal practicing, band rehearsals, travel to and from the gigs, time spent setting up and tearing down the equipment, etc. This is a huge jump in commitment from playing at seisiuns and performing at an occasional open mic program.
Professional musicians face a major challenge in balancing family and the rest of their personal life with their music. The overwhelming majority of the Irish musicians in Arizona have "day jobs", which means that they have to fit their music into a painfully small time frame. Non-musicians often consider musicians to be "obsessive." They have to be.
The unhappy truth about the local music scene is that it is nearly impossible for a musician to make a full time living performing music in Arizona. This is true for all forms of music, not just Irish music. This means that the professional musician has to be terribly committed to the music without the expectation of significant financial rewards.
All the same, some performers do better financially than others. The sad truth is that most people find they have to tour to make a living at playing music. This is terribly demanding and is often simply not possible.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IRISH MUSIC?
The Arizona Irish Music Society has a directory of Irish/Celtic performers www.azirishmusic.com/mus1.htm - but not all of them do primarily Irish music. For example, our directory includes folk singers that do some Clancy Brothers songs. There is a pop band that does occasional fiddle tunes to go along with pop originals. There are several "old-timey" bands that do some Celtic music, but mostly play for contradance bands (a New England form of square dancing) and music more associated with Blue Grass than with the Irish. Most of these bands/performers are on the periphery of the Irish music scene, although they do join in at the Irish seisiuns organized at the folk festivals. At the same time, there are some groups/performers that perform regularly at Irish pubs but do only a tiny amount of what is identifiably Irish/Celtic music, but are listed as a convenience to the pub owners.
In practical terms, the "core" Irish groups are the ones that play all or nearly all Irish/Celtic music, routinely perform Irish music at the Irish pubs, perform for Irish dancers, regularly perform at Irish events, or are actually from Ireland. Some of the "core" bands do a lot of original material and virtually all of them mix in other material into their sets. None the less, the identity of a "core" band is built around their Irish/Celtic connection while it does not really matter to many of the others.
Being identified as an "Irish/Celtic" band has some advantages and disadvantages. On the plus side, the top Irish bands get to play a lot - four to eight times a month. Irish pubs pay far more than the coffee houses frequented by folk singers. Some of the bands have been registered with the Arizona Arts Commission and have been able to get some fairly lucrative gigs at arts centers and schools. Last, but hardly least, Irish bands can charge premium prices for gigs in the time around March 17th.
One downside to being classified as an "Irish band" is that some venue owners have a negative stereotype as to what Irish music is about. Another problem is that the audience expectations may not match what you want to do (more about this in a later segment). Some of the bands in New York refer to feeling trapped in the "green ghetto". It all depends on what you want to.
One major plus in choosing to play Irish is that there is a world wide network of Irish musicians. On the local level, this is defined by the seisiun scene (where musicians get together informally and play Irish music). On a wider level, musicians can meet other musicians at various Irish festivals and schools around the country. Networking is how most Irish bands get started and how new players are identified.
The rest of this series assumes the objective is to form a "core" band.
[This completes the first installment on the series, "On Building an Irish Band in Arizona."]
8. THIS WEEK IN IRISH MUSIC 5-22-2002
PHOENIX
Carroll MacGreggor will be at Dubliner Thursday through Saturday.
The Clare Voyants will be at O'Connor's on Friday and Saturday with On the Dole on Thursday.
Blackwood will be at Rosie McCaffrey's on Friday and Saturday.
Mike Donovan will be at Seamus McCaffrey's on Friday and Saturday.
Mountain Duo will be at Rula Bula on Friday with Pat McCrossan on Saturday.
The Phoenix Friends of Old Time Music will hold their regular contradance on Saturday at Kenilworth School.
TUCSON
The Mollys will be at Boondocks on Saturday.
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2. ICLC Memo (Irish Cultural And Learning Center)
3. 1st Annual Claddagh Dinner To Honor Maureen O'Mahar June 14th
4. Phoenix Feis Fundraiser - Sun June 2nd
5. News From the Flagstaff Celts
6. Welsh League Of Arizona - May Bulletin
7. On Building an Irish Band in Arizona - Part 1
8. This Week In Irish Music 5-22-2002
Patrick@azirish.com
6-7pm at the Irish Cultural Center
Dinner with Afan
7:15pm at the Phoenix Library
Followed by The McMorrows in concert
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(2) None of the organizations march--or pay a fee--by way of protest.
(3) The Irish Foundation and the Celtic Heritage Society pay either a
combined fee or two fees and march without the pipers and drummers.
(4) The three organizations join together and split the $25 among
the three organizations.
(5) Any other options you can think of?
My opinion.....
In order for any pipe band to perform it is necessary for everybody in
the band to give up most of their day and spend it, in many cases, away
from loved ones and family. We must carefully outfit ourselves in a
uniform that probably cost each individual around $300, the band
covering the additional $200 to $300 for the kilt. Then we perform on
one of the most difficult and demanding instrument[s] which costs money to
maintain. We pay for lessons and attend what amounts to 'professional
development' sessions (highland games) at great expense. We spend hours
upon hours practicing. We have to arrive an hour early just to tune up.
This preparation, sacrifice, and expense is probably not a part of the
other organizations that also promote our heritage. These organizations
also support the Arizona Highlanders. If the sister organizations wish
the Arizona Highlanders to play, perhaps you should do the parade for
them, especially if they cover the fee. I still object vehemently to
having to pay for the privilege of performing. I know that many other
cities pay for this kind of thing and support local performers.
Just some thoughts. It's your decision.
Back to practicing,
#2
I believe that all 3 organizations get too much out of the exposure to the
community by being in the parade to not be in it. Besides, we should not
disappoint the community by depriving them of their favorite entry for,
which they show so much enthusiasm during the parade, just because of some
twits in City Hall or with the Chamber of Commerce. I recommend several
steps:
#3
As a member of NACHS I hope the Society pays their $25 entry fee and
participates in the parade. The timing is perfect to publicize the festival.
#4
My very opinionated MacLeod brain says sit back on reactions to accepting
Flagstaff engagement. Do not let them know you think their option stinks.
There will be MANY other groups who will complain so we do not HAVE to get
involved and most importantly, VOTE for Mayor on May 21st and be sure to
vote for Chris Bavasi who will support us for sure next year. I would
accept another town or two and be smart and forget playing in Lake Havasu
City as we lived there for 10 years and all your pipers will die if you ever
try to play in July there. It could be 125 degrees then. We love you guys
too much to have you fry over some very stupid Flagstaff decision making.
Good luck, God Bless.
#5
I won't be there for the parade, but I think it's ridiculous for the city to
charge any band to march. Are they aiming for a completely silent Fourth of
July or what? If the Highlanders think it will set a dangerous precedent to
start paying up for the priviledge of playing, then don't go as a form of
protest. If you do decide to go, perhaps the three groups could hand out
informational flyers that also mention: 1)lack of city financial
sponsorship, 2)Highlanders waiving fees to perform in Flag. while other pipe
bands charge their cities, and 3) asking Flagstaff residents to write or
call their city repesentatives to get the $25 fee waived for all bands next
year. Good luck
#6
I belong to the Irish Foundation but since it has been decided I don't think
my opinion will count..... but here goes. I like Piper #5 who feels the Band
should play in another town that will pay for the privilege of having the
group.
#7
Again, I will say that I think we (the Celtic Society) should be in the
parade. The benefits are obvious. I also think we should pay the whole fee
and if the Arizona Highlanders would perform with/for us that would be
great, since they would not be doing it for the city. But, if the
Highlanders don't want to do it, that is fine too. I understand and respect
your decision. I welcome the Irish Foundation as well and hope we can
muster up a big group of people so that we can pass out LOTS of flyers. My
big concern is that it seems to be a critical year with low attendance for
most games and festivals and I hope we can get people out to ours!
#8
I hesitate to even reply as you requested because I am
a relatively new Celtic Heritage Society member that
has not actively helped with anything--just watched,
listened and enjoyed......
#9
EDITOR'S NOTE: To answer some of the questions that the above writer asks:
Bands do not usually pay to perform at an invitational, are in fact given
travel money, how much depending on how far they have to travel ($100 under
300 miles, $200 over 300 miles). [There is a difference between being asked
to perform (for which they are paid) and entering a competition (for which
they are not paid, though they may receive travel money and there are
usually monetary prizes for first place winners.] Solo pipers DO pay a
competition entry fee. (The solo piping entry fee was $15 at Mesa, will be
$10 at our Festival). No band will pay to come to our Festival. We will
pay our one invited host band (Mesa Caledonian) $500. We are attempting to
find a small amount of money to compensate the other bands that will come
to our Festival. The Arizona Highlanders, who are partial sponsors of the
piping events, will not pay or be paid. The issue is not how much money
the Arizona Highlanders have to pay but the concept of performing for free
(which the Arizona Highlanders readily do for charity and have--as
mentioned before--done for all Flagstaff parades by voluntarily waiving all
fees). Every other city in Arizona (that we know of and that the Arizona
Highlanders have performed in) that puts on a parade, pays bands (not just
pipe bands) to perform--even if they are charging the other entries. [Mike
McKee, piper with the Mesa Caledonian Pipe Band and instructor for the
Arizona Highlanders, raises an interesting point: The Rolling Stones band
is on tour--do you think if we CHARGE them enough, they would peform in
Flagstaff?] All who are proud of our Arizona Highlanders Pipe Band should
find it humiliating that, while many (if not most) cities in Arizona and
the Southwest recognize (via financial support) what a treasure we have in
the Arizona Highlanders, our own city of Flagstaff--and the Flagstaff
Chamber of Commerce--do not consider the band worthy of even token support.
#10
Thank you for including me in this email. It is helpful for us to know how
other cities and parade organizers work.
#11
If the Chamber can not support its activities through the memberships and
sponsorships, it should not be doing the activities.
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